Saturday, April 05, 2008

Government Assures Service Chiefs

Yielding to sustained pressure from the Armed Forces, the government on Friday assured the service chiefs that it was ready to look into their genuine grievances on pay scales recommended by the Sixth Pay Commission.

Following a meeting of the three service chiefs with the members of the Sixth Pay Commission on Friday, Defence Minister AK Antony asked the Army, Navy, and the Air Force to submit a list of their anomalies which can then be discussed with the Finance Ministry.

Antony was also present at the hour-long meeting, which was attended by Chief of Air Staff Air Chief Marshal Fali Homi Major and Vice Chiefs of Army and Navy, besides Defence Secretary Vijay Singh.

The meeting, held at Antony's insistence, was the result of two rounds of presentations made by the armed forces before the Defence Minister pointing out anomalies in the pay commission report and demanding more salaries for soldiers and increase in allowances.

At the meeting, Air Chief Marshal Major, speaking on behalf of all three wings of armed forces, made a strong plea for increasing the special pay for soldiers below officer ranks to Rs 3,000 from Rs 1,000 as recommended by the pay commission.

Pay commission officials said the ‘‘existing edge’’ of armed forces personnel over their civilian counterparts had ‘‘not only been maintained, but also suitably enhanced’’. The concept of ‘‘military service pay’’ (MSP), under which Rs 6,000 per month will be given to officers up to Brigadiers and Rs 1,000 to jawans, NCOs and JCOs, for instance, will help in enhancing the edge. In fact, said the commission officials, 61% of the expenditure of the new recommendations will accrue to armed forces, which constitute 40% of the total number of central government employees, apart from the Railways.

Nonsense, say the armed forces. ‘‘We are not looking for an ‘edge’ over our civilian counterparts. We want compensation for the hardships of our service lives. Moreover, there should be parity of pay for the length of service between IAS and armed forces officers,’’ said an officer.

Added another, ‘‘We owe it to the soldiers we command that they be given at least Rs 3,000 as MSP. It’s actually unfair that officers will get Rs 6,000, while all the other ranks will get only Rs 1,000. The MSP should be graded.’’

Overall, the armed forces want at least a 40% hike over what has been proposed by the pay commission to ‘‘attract and retain talent’’ in their fold.

(Based on reports published in Times of India and Indian Express on 05/04/08)

22 comments:

  1. Anonymous7:55 PM

    the service chiefs are up in arms for their men...good most certainly, but what about the veterans who toiled hard to win kargil, or for that matter even the 1971 war with pakistan. why should they not take up the cause of pensioners, who look upto the service chiefs to fight their cause. i hope someone is listening.
    Bidyut Chatterjee

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  2. Ramnujan3:36 PM

    I agree with anonymous but sad that he wants to remain anonymous even after retirement.What about those who toiled in the fields in the mines on the oil rigs in the labs .Every indian toils let us not forget.

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  3. Anonymous1:11 AM

    Whatever may be the final decision about the SPC recommendations, the Govt must deposit the arrears in PF account with retrospective effect from Jan 06. That way justice will be done and Govt will set up 18 months prior to the end of 10 years of pne commission in future.

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  4. There is one Antony to listen to complaints of Armed Forces. There is one Shivaraj Patil for IPS lobby. What about we people ? Go the following link and see how we are cheated by spc. Reading shocking news about spc in the following link.

    http://www.scribd.com/people/view/394002-rajkumarvarier

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  5. There is one Antony to listen to grievances of Defence. There is one Shivaraj Patil to listen to the IPS lobby. What about we people? Go the following link and see how we are blatantly cheated by the spc.

    http://www.scribd.com/people/view/394002-rajkumarvarier

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  6. Anonymous1:36 PM

    A FRESH and potentially crippling round of exodus has hit the army, which is already facing a severe shortage of officers. Dozens of officers have sought premature release from service, and a larger number plan to do the same. All are apparently disappointed with the recommendations of the Sixth Pay Commission. South Block sources told Hindustan Times that 69 middle-rung officers have initiated paperwork to quit since March 24, when the pay panel submitted its report to the government. "This is the tip of the iceberg. We have feedback that hordes of lieutenant colonels and colonels are queu-ing up to quit. The pay panel is the villain of the piece," a senior officer said. The army is already short of 11,153 officers, and the recent developments have made its worst fears come true. Infantry battalions are facing an unprecedented officer crunch and the situation is likely to worsen now. A standard infantry unit is supposed to have 23 officers but units are making do with just 12-14 officers in operational areas, and less than 10 elsewhere. The commanding officer of an infantry battalion said, "Desperate measures were being taken to shore up units. Nine newly commissioned lieutenants were sent to my battalion to make up for the officer shortage. But it hardly helped because they were not trained to lead a company-level force in operations." These units require middle-rung officers who have done specialist courses and form the backbone of the army's fighting force. WHY m The pay panel has recommended only a 13-15 per cent hike in take-home packages of Major to Brigadier ranks. The defence minister has assured that corrections would be sought in the pay panel report. But officers planning to quit say they can't wait.

    A major, who plans to quit, told Hindustan Times, "I was undecided on whether to quit or not. I have now made up my mind. There's a growing sense of despondency among my colleagues."
    The army can turn down requests for premature release. But Lieutenant General H.S. Bagga, a former director general (personnel) and co-author of A.V Singh. Committee report on restructuring the officer cadre, said: "Even if the army does not release them, the big question is how will it keep them motivated?"
    Defence Minister A.K. Antony has assured the service chiefs, who have met him twice since March 24 over the stingy proposals, that the ministry would push for corrections in the pay panel's report to meet the aspirations of soldiers.
    But desperate officers are running out of patience and scrambling for alternative ca-reers. The take-home package of major to brigadier has gone up by just 13-15 per cent, officers said. "We have got peanuts. A large number of those who still join the army would do so only if they have been rejected in the civilian domain. The trend will seri-ously undermine the quality of military's human capital and threaten its operational ef-fectiveness," a senior officer said.
    The pay panel, however, has defended its proposals saying that the armed forces have been given their due. The military has now proposed a 40-60 per cent increase over the hike suggested by the panel, though initially it had suggested a fourfold increase. A lieu-tenant colonel, who is quitting, said, "I have no time to wait for the government to con-stitute the Seventh Pay Commission 10 years hence."
    The navy and air force, which are facing a shortage of 1,403 and 1,368 officers respec-tively, are also keeping a track of developments triggered by the pay panel's report.

    A Report from Hindustan Times-08/04/08 [DEEPAK THAKUR]

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  7. Anonymous2:55 PM

    65 army officers quit after pay panel report
    Mon, Apr 7 10:10 PM

    New Delhi, April 7 (IANS) Unhappy with a pay panel's recommendation, 65 officers of the Indian Army have put in their papers in last two weeks, an official said Monday.

    'Sixty-five officers of the army has resigned since the Sixth Pay Commission's report (submitted) on March 24,' a senior defence official told IANS.

    'The officers have sought a voluntary retirement and their applications will have to be processed before approval,' added the officer, who did not wish to be identified.

    Most of them are of the colonel and lieutenant colonel ranks.

    The large number of resignations in a span of just two weeks have come at a time the army is facing a shortage of 11,200 officers. Earlier, around 3,000 mid-level commanders had sought voluntary retirement to move to the lucrative private sector.

    There has been a large-scale resentment among the rank and files of the armed forces over what they see as disparity between them and civil officers.

    The officers' representatives had a meeting with members of the Pay Commission April 4.

    India's military chiefs had April 1 met Defence Minister A.K. Antony to covey their disappointment over the pay scale recommendations.

    Led by the Indian Navy chief, Admiral Sureesh Mehta, who is chairman of the Chiefs of Staff Committee, the Indian Army chief Gen. Deepak Kapoor and the Indian Air Force chief Air Chief Marshal Fali Homi Major met Antony in his South Block office and submitted their memorandum against the recommendations of the Sixth Pay Commission.

    This was the second such meeting in a week, with the service chiefs having met the minister March 27.

    The defence ministry has now decided to take up the grievances of the forces with the Anomalies Committee of the finance ministry.

    The pay commission, headed by former Supreme Court Justice B.N. Srikrishna, has recommended a 40 percent across-the-board pay hike for armed forces personnel, doubling their allowances and military service pay (MSP) for officers up to the rank of brigadier and equivalent, as also for PBORs.

    Apart from pushing the case for PBORs, the forces had pointed out that after taking into account taxes and other deductions, the wage hike in real terms would amount to only 20 percent.

    Then, the demand for parity of armed forces personnel with civilian employees has not been addressed, the memorandum says.

    The recommendations translate into a take-home package - before tax - of Rs.25,760 for officers at the entry level of lieutenants and equivalent and rising to a maximum of Rs.65,090 for lieutenant generals and their equivalents.

    The vice chiefs of the three services and army commanders and equivalents - also three-star officers - will get a fixed salary of Rs.80,000 per month.

    In the case of PBORs, the commission has recommended that at the entry level, sepoys (privates) and their equivalents receive a minimum of Rs.7,860, rising to a maximum of Rs.40,600 for subedar majors and their equivalents.

    The commission has also recommended military service pay of Rs.6,000 for officers up to the level of brigadier and equivalent and of Rs.1,000 for PBORs.

    The recommendations will entail additional annual expenditure of Rs.63.86 billion ($1.5 billion) in the defence sector, the commission said in its report. It also said the exchequer would stand to save Rs.18 billion if its other recommendations are implemented.

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  8. @ 'Sixty-five officers of the army has resigned since the Sixth Pay Commission's report (submitted) on March 24,' a senior defence official told IANS.

    Let them return their free of cost BSc degree's , MTech's, Flying licenses before leaving defence.

    Officer's don't think you are PBOR who can leave after their engagement.
    PBOR's join as metric pass and leave like that only they don't take Free degrees like officers.

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  9. i have been telling people that we in army should get tax concessions,liberal allowances for extra and temporary duties.
    double the NPA.
    surgeons and other busy specialist should be paid extra for thier call duties and after hour operations.
    superspecialist deserve more pay than these secretories.
    is any body listening.
    ashok

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  10. With the armed forces and IPS officers voicing their unhappiness over the Sixth Pay Commission recommendations, the government on Tuesday set up a high-level committee to look into their grievances.
    The Finance Ministry on Tuesday constituted a three-member committee comprising Finance Secretary D Subbarao, Home Secretary Madhukar Gupta and Defence Secretary Vijay Singh to look into the modifications suggested by these forces.
    The committee has been asked to submit its report within two months, official sources said on Tuesday.
    The government's step comes in the wake of dismayed officers meeting Congress party President Sonia Gandhi to air their grievances on the Pay Commission's recommendations.
    The three Defence Service Chiefs have submitted proposals to the Defence Minister saying that the armed forces have not got fair treatment from the Pay Commission.
    The three Services Chiefs submitted detailed modification proposals to the government seeking redressal in stagnation being faced by officers of the rank of Majors and Colonels in the Army.
    In their proposals to the Ministry of Defence, the armed forces are, among other things, seeking a hike from Rs 1,000 to Rs 3,000 in the minimum military service pay for personnel below officer ranks.
    They have pointed out anomalies in the new pay structure between soldiers and personnel below officer rank and their counterparts in paramilitary forces.
    The armed forces also want more running pay bands for officers of the rank of Majors, Colonels and Brigadiers.

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  11. Anonymous7:48 AM

    the spc has said that there will be a saving of Rs 18 billion if its recommendations are implemented.Now isn't that a contradiction in terms.Read beteen the lines to understand its implications.

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  12. Anonymous3:30 PM

    Defence personnel cried and an empowered committee has been set up (for uniformed services only). Police has also approached top brass. IAS and scientist have their own trumpet to blow.
    What about the normal govt employee.... is there anybody listening to them or not...
    I think he will vanish unnoticed and unmarked.

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  13. Again IAS guys are asked to pacify armed forces. They will use this as an excuse to bolster up their salary further.

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  14. Copy of Staff Side Secretary letter dated 8th April, 2008 in NC/JCM-2008/VI CPC (CS) addressed to the Cabinet Secretary.



    Dear Sir,



    As you are aware that the report of the VI CPC has been submitted and there are varied types of commentaries including expression of anger amongst the Central Govt. employees in various parts of the country.



    We, Staff sie members of the National Council JCM have discussed and prepared a Note which we are enclosing herewith.



    We will like to request you to kindly advise Secretary (DOPT) who is also the Chairman of the Standing Committee (NC-JCM) to call the meeting of the Standing Committee to discuss al these matters in presence of Secretary (Expenditure) and orders concerned.



    I have met the Secretary (Expenditure) who has kindly clarified certain issues. This has gone a long way in proper understanding of the issues involved.



    An early action would help clear the atmosphere.

    Thanking you,

    Copy to Secretary, DOPT. And To Secretary (Expenditure)





    The modification required to be made to the report of the 6th CPC



    1. A.The minimum wage

    The computation of minimum wage of the 6th CPC is not acceptable for the following reasons in brief..

    i. Prices applied for various commodities (included in the basket) is the wholesale price as increased by 20% which is not the norms prescribed by the 15 ILC;

    ii. The exclusion of 25% for meeting expenditure connected with social obligation like marriage, education of children, recreational needs etc. is on the untenable grounds.

    iii. The exclusion of 10% for the housing requirement (on the ground that HRA is given separately) is not correct as HRA is not a full reimbursement of the expenses incurred by the employee.

    If these corrections are carried out the need based minimum wage will be what is computed by the staff side.



    B. Even as per the formulation adopted by the 5th CPC the minimum wage works out to Rs.7400 i.e. by application of the percentage increase of the net national product which comes to 56.2%



    C. The Commission, without assigning any reason has rejected the demand of the staff side for parity in the minimum wage with what is obtaining in certain specified public sector undertakings.



    D. For the above reasons, the minimum wage need to be worked out afresh and the same reflected in all the pay bands appropriately by applying the resultant multiplification factor as was done by the 5th CPC.



    2. Fitment formula

    Rejection of point to point fixation, (which is normally adopted by the PSUs in their wage revisions as fitment formula) is for no sound reasons. There is no 40% hike as propagated by the Commission.. By withdrawing the benefit of merger of DA the actual rise is between 15 to 28% . Our demand in this connection is as under:-



    (a) The merged portion of the DA should be taken into account to arrive at the revised basic pay and Grade Pay in each case.

    (b) Since quite a number of pay scales have been merged together (especially in Gr.B & C cadres)the senior employees who were in higher scales of pay and who have put in large number of years of service progressively get reduced benefits.

    (c) Taking these two factors into account we suggest that the fitment formula as suggested by the Commission may be amended to incorporate the following:



    " subject to the condition that the pay and grade pay so fixed is not less than 2.625 times of the pre revised basic pay."



    ` The multiplication factor of 2.625 is the same as is applied in the case of the entry grade pay band and grade pay in the case of Gr.A officers. This clause will make good the loss of benefit one might suffer due to the exclusion of the DP from the computation process of fitment formula.

    3. Rate of increment.



    (a) The rate of increment suggested by the CPC is to be raised to 3.5% for the following reasons:



    (i) The 2.5% is below the existing rate of increment in many grades.

    (ii) Due to the compounding factor, over a period of ten years, this might rise to 4.5% still less than the prevailing rate of increment in the PSUs which is 5% and above.



    (b) The condition prescribed i.e. to have a minimum six months for applying the uniform date of increment must be done away with, as it is only to be applied in the initial year.



    4. Transport allowance.

    The recommendation of the Commission is to subsume the CCA in the Transport allowance and raise the existing Transport allowance by 4 times. This has reduced the proportionate benefit to certain grades and categories of employees. We make the following suggestions:

    (a) Since the CCA has been subsumed in this allowance, no condition should be imposed for the grant of this allowance.

    (b) Taking into account that some of the employees might get reduced benefit from the across the board rise at the rate of 4 times, the following rates may be applied.

    Employees drawing grade pay
    A-1/A class cities
    Others.

    Rs.5400 and above.
    Rs. 3200 + DA
    Rs. 2400 + DA

    Rs. 4200 – 4800
    Rs. 2400 + DA
    Rs. 1800 + DA

    Rs. Below Rs. 4200
    Rs. 1600 + DA
    Rs. 1200 + DA

    (i)



    5. Fixation of pay on Promotion



    In the present scheme of things, wherein many grades have been merged under one single Pay band, promotion will not bring about any significant rise in emoluments. The benefit will be very insignificant in the case of promotion from one grade to another where the grade pay is one and the same. In that case the one increment benefit will be less than even what is obtaining today. We suggest to incorporate the following clause to take care of this situation.



    "the pay plus grade pay so fixed on promotion shall not be less than 10% of pay plus grade pay the individual was drawing in the feeder cadre."



    6. Allowances and benefits withdrawn.



    Certain allowances and benefits have been withdrawn to be replaced with a new scheme. The New scheme will have to be formulated on the basis of discussion/agreement in the National/Departmental Council as the case may. Till such agreement is reached, the old scheme of allowances and benefits will continue to be operated relating to the revised basic pay and grade pay.



    7. Special duty allowance of North Eastern Region.

    We hope that the SDA will now become available for all employees working in the North Eastern Region. However, we feel that it is likely that the phraseology employed in detailing the scheme is capable of misinterpretation giving room for further discrimination amongst the employees posted in N.E. Region. This may therefore, be appropriately clarified to mean that the employees and officers working in North Eastern Region is entitled to draw this allowance .



    8. Daily allowance on tour:



    The rates of daily allowance which include the following elements, viz. food, conveyance and accommodation suggested by the Commission to the officers other than Gr. A is extremely meager and would not go to meet the expenditure involved. We suggest the following amendment .

    The rates prescribed for grade pay of Rs. 4200 to 4800 and below Rs. 4200 may be replaced with the following.



    Rs. 4200 to 4800
    Reimbursement of hotel accommodation of upto

    Rs. 1000 per day . reimbursement of travel charges

    upto Rs. 150 per diem for travel within the city and

    reimbursement of food not exceeding Rs. 200 per day.

    Below Rs. 4200
    Reimbursement of hotel accommodation of upto

    Rs. 700 per day . reimbursement of travel charges upto

    Rs. 150 per diem for travel within the city and

    reimbursement of food not exceeding Rs. 200 per day.























    9. Promotion. ACP Scheme.

    The scheme should be improved to provide three promotion at the intervals of ten, twenty and twenty five years of service.



    10. Inappropriate rationalization

    There is a great deal of resentment over the rationalization of the scales of pay of S9 to S12. The grievances in this must be addressed by appropriate decisions.



    11. Pension.



    The Staff Side appreciates the acceptance of some of its suggestions for improving the pension of the old pensioners by the Commission. However, we feel the following amendment is needed in the case of pensioners.



    (a) to raise the minimum pension from the suggested 50% to 75% i.e. from Rs. 3330 to Rs. 4995.

    (b) The 5th CPC suggestion to refix the pension on the basis of the notional pay as on 1.1.1996 is to be implemented. The pension entitlement has to be worked out on that basis. The new commutation table to be applied only prospectively.

    (C) The restoration of commuted value of pension should be on completion of 12 years







    12. Fast track committee.



    There are cases like the Master Craftsmen, where the existing pay scales have been reduced to a lower scale. To consider these types of cases, a fast track committee may be set up.



    13. Anomalies.



    There are certain anomalies arising from the disturbance of vertical and horizontal relativities etc. For quick and time bound disposal of these anomalies a Joint Committee of the National Council JCM with the participation of the Secretaries of all concerned Ministries should be constituted.



    14. Grameen Dak Sewaks.



    Grameen Dak Sewaks are employed by the Postal Department. They constitute the largest segment of the workforce of the Postal organization. We suggest that the pay, allowance, pension and other benefits in their case should be proportionately what is suggested to the regular civilian employees. Since the Group D Cadres have been abolished, they may be promoted/absorbed/regularized in Group C cadres in the same manner provided for matriculate/non matriculate regular Group D employees.

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  15. please include senior Lt-Col in PAY BAND 4.

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  16. Anonymous7:35 PM

    Binu has put the finger at right place. Most of the so called resignation offers from service officers are from those who have received MBA like degrees from prestigious institutes like IIMs, XLRI, MDI etc at initiative of Army/Air Force/Navy and at Govt expense.

    If the officers are leaving due to their own policies(Intended or unintended), why so much of hue and cry?

    A large number of officers who have offered to exit Army are those who have not been found fit for further promotion and are looking for greener pastures outside (which they would have looked for in any case, sixth pay commission or not, thanx to economic growth and good opportunities outside for trained people(at Govt expense)). Then why blame Sixth pay commission for the self inflicted exodus?

    It is time Army/Navy/Airforce start accepting the realities and amend their promotion policies from ranks and relax intake standards. They are certainly capable of training the recruits to their requirements.

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  17. anonymous has himself noted that officers are leaving armed forces for the greener pastures .So u admit army is no longer lucrative.A sound economy which is offering greener pasture can only do so if your frontiers and national interests are well guarded.There is a strong case on the side of armymen to make their service attractive , capable to retain the talent produced at high cost of training and than suitabaly utilising these trained men in other discipilines .All that is possible at the command of the nation should be done for those who spend best of their life on the borders sacrificing the comforts and company of their families.A nation not doing so can only do it on its peril.

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  18. Anonymous9:23 PM

    since the nation and all its civilian population does not care about us armed forces personnel( amply reflected in the 6th CPC) ... i suggest lets all do what we never thought of doing...lets jus leave all the border post and dissappear... let the civilian junta fend for themselves and fight the terrorists and the Paki's or the Chinese... why care for the civilians when they dontt care about us.,..a day spent at a border out post or tyhe high seas..will give the on job training.. then let them ask the same questions they are asking now...i,d love to see there faces then.....

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  19. Anonymous1:09 PM

    There is a visible anomoly in gradepay for army officers

    As per pay commission it is 40% of the maximum of old scale.With that formula it should be
    Maj 6420
    Lt Col 7560
    Col 7740

    You can see that no one has been given less than 40% of max of old scale in civil.In few cases they have been given more.Are pay commission officials seeing this blog.They may check their calculations

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  20. Anonymous8:43 PM

    preferential treatment to civil pay scale

    The grade pay is to be 40% of the max of earlier scale. But for civil scale namely S25 “15100-400-18300” it is as high as 8300 which works out to 45.34 % of 18300.

    In case of Army for a similar scale of Lt Col 15100-400-18700 ( including rank pay it only 6600 which stands to only 35.3% of the max of earlier scale. Why this step motherly treatment to the real sons of motherland. is it just justice Krishanan

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  21. Anonymous9:53 PM

    Armed Forces being isolated from the society have been naive. They have been busy fighting the terrorists or guarding the borders and also saluting and always saying 'Yes, Sir'.

    In the fourth pay commission an integrated payscale of Rs 2300-5100 + (Rs200-1200) Rank Pay was introduced. Minimum pay of Lt Col was fixed at Rs 4700 (Rs 3900 + 800 rank pay). In the fifth pay commission, the Lt Cols were given the payscale of Rs 15100-18700 (including rank pay of Rs1600) i.e. the same as that of a Director of an IAS cadre.
    However now the sixth pay commission has given grade pay of Rs 6600 to a Lt Col but Rs 8300 to the Director. This is a great anomaly and probably Justice Sreekrishna, the chairman of the pay commission and othe members have overlooked this fact. An IAS officer becomes Director after 12-14 years of service. An army officer also becomes Lt Col after 14 years (including 1 year of pre-commissioning training). Other Group 'A' officers in the rank of Director had a payscale of Rs 14300-18300 i.e. lower than that of a Lt. Col. However all civilian officers in the payscale of Rs 14300-18300 have been given grade pay of Rs 7400 whereas, Lt Cols who had a higher payscale have been given lower grade pay of Rs 6600.This is just not understandable.

    Committee of Secretaries should correct this anomaly and grant grade pay of Rs 8300 to Lt Cols. Grade pays of all ranks can be correspondingly enhanced by applying similar logic.

    Another great injustice seems to have been done with the Jawans. Earlier the jawans used to get pension based on the maximum of the payscale so as to compensate them for the truncated career because of early retirement and lack of promotions because of steep pyramid. However sixth pay commission has recommended the pensions of Jawans to be the same for civilians i.e 50% of last pay drawn. This will bring down the pensions upto almost 30% in comparison with the civilians though military pay of Rs1000 will offset this a bit. A uniform formula of 50% pension based on maximum of payscale for both the men and officers should be applied for armed forces. After all this pay commission has recommended withdrawal of pension weightage (number of years based on rank used to be added earlier to give enhanced pension to defence officers and men) for defence personnel both officers and men.

    Moreover military service pay of jawans should not be fixed as Rs 1000 for all ranks. A sepoy who just joins and a Subedar Major with 30 years service have been equated with each other. It will be more prudent, if the MSP is fixed at say 30% of the pay (basic + grade pay). The same rule should apply to all officers irrespective of the rank. Why leave our revered Generals! I recommend, oh sorry, I hereby suggest that they should also be given the MSP.

    Our brothers in other uniforms like the Police and the para-military should also get
    something like MSP; we can call this PP (police pay). PP can be fixed as 50% of the MSP. We should not forget that the Police and the para military forces are also fighting the militants and are handling internal security.

    Armed forces HQs must present these points in the correct perspective and by giving sound logic. First of all the senior officers of the armed forces should understand this sound logic themselves, develop it further and then present a strong case before the Govt. Our Honourable Defence minister Shri Antony is an above-board person. It is certain that if the case is presented in the correct perspective, the abovementioned anomalies will be removed. After all it was our Honourable Defence Minister Mr. Mulayam Singh Yadav who had intervened and got enhanced the Siachin allowance from Rs 1200 to Rs7000 though the fifth pay commission had simply recommended all allowances to be doubled. Similarly, the flying pay had been enhanced from Rs 1200 to Rs 7000. Now also these allowances should be more than doubled. After all the effect of inflation (Dearness allowance on pay and dearness pay + dearness pay) since 1.1.1996 (date of mplementation of fifth pay commission) has more than doubled. This simply means that in real terms all the allowances have been reduced.

    Ever thought of a pay commission which reduces pay and pension, just the opposite for which it was made by our Govt! Should not the Chairman and the members of the sixth pay commission be penalised and even punished for their acts of commission and ommission. They have done what even Pakistan, China or USA could not have been able to do i.e. lowering the morale of our jawans and officers in uniform. This can only spell doom for the security of our Great country. Can we allow some immature people to play with the security of the country!

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  22. Anonymous11:10 PM

    The official press release after cabinet approval is silent about 15% pay for paramilitary forces but media hype do exist about increased hike for paramilitary forces. The confirmed media reports indicate the officers of Central Para Military Forces, all the posts of Additional DIG upgraded to DIG level by the Pay Commission to continue to be manned by the cadre officers of CPMFs;As replacement of the pay scale of Rs.24050-26000, a separate pay scale has been carved for DGPs, , who were in this pre-revised scale. This would take them to the level of Rs.80000 in two years as against three years in the pre-revised scale and DIG-scale abolished in IPS but what is the real hike for lower ranks of the paramilitary forces. Did they approve the recommendation for 15% pay hike or do they grant any MSP for them. Please clarify. If no how the vast majority of the paramilitary being hailed as to be benefited from the cpc. Please clarify.

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